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Affordable Tone Tips Part Two

May 16, 2013

Greetings, everyone! Last month we highlighted five affordable tone tips to help you tweak your tone and get yourself just a little bit closer to your own holy guitar-tone grail. This month we’re giving you part DEUX of this series—because we want you exploring every inch of your rig for ways to fine tune your tone and because you don’t need to spend a ton of money to make big changes in the sound coming out of your hands, guitar, amp, etc. Let’s look at a few more ways to explore the possibilities…

 

CABLE

 It’s easy to overlook cables as a component in your rig. A good quality cable can make the difference between good tone and terrible tone; it can also make the difference between you getting through the show looking and sounding like a total rockstar OR  having your signal short out in the middle of your two-handed tapping solo. The cable is the device which carries your signal out of your guitar pickups and into your amp so you’ll want to make sure you get a cable you can trust to do all that heavy lifting. When purchasing cables, look for cables that have a good rubber sleeve at the jacks; a poorly protected jack is more apt to short-out or get ripped out of the end socket if tugged on or tripped over. Cables come in a variety of configurations with regard to straight or right angle plugs. The placement of the output jack on your instrument should help you determine whether to run a straight or right-angle plug out of the instrument—the name of the game here is to reduce stress on the cable at the jack. There has been an uptick lately in some extremely high-end boutique cables; you don’t necessarily need to spend $150 on an instrument cable, but make no mistake—a hand-built cable using the finest quality components WILL sound different to a mass-produced budget cable. Even spending $30-$50 to upgrade your instrument cable from that store-brand cable you’re currently using can radically improve your tone. In an ideal world, the cable that runs between your instrument and amp (or pedalboard) would be 10’ or less. Remember, the longer the cable, the further the signal has to travel and the more likely that noise will be introduced to your signal chain. Cables that are 25’-30’ (or longer!) naturally cause some signal degradation—so it pays to try to be as economical as possible with your cable lengths, but make sure to leave yourself enough slack to do your favorite choreographed rock moves.

 

 

PICKS

Picks are often a dime a dozen-- sometimes literally. They’re also often found in the darndest places—I think most guitarists are never more than 3 feet from a guitar pick (there’s one in my pocket, the ashtray, I can feel one in my shoe, there’s one stuck in my hair!). They’re ubiquitous in our world—and believe it or not, every pick sounds different and has a unique effect on how you play. The material used for the plectrum will have a major impact on the tone of the pick—celluloid vs nylon vs acrylic vs metal vs wood—as will the shape of the pick.

Price points on picks range from $0.25 each all the way up to $30+ for a handmade pick (some of which are truly amazing). At this price point, it’s a no-brainer to drop $20 to pick up a few of every variety of pick you can get your hands on and give them each a thorough run-through. The results may surprise you. You might have been using that .88mm for 20 years because it’s what your favorite guitarist used and therefore you’ve always used it—but after trying on some other types of plectrum, you might be surprised to find that a thinner pick gives you a little more speed/dexterity. Even a change as small as one little plectrum can have a huge impact on your playing and on your tone. Change it up!

 

 

 

 

PRACTICE

Yes, this is a no-brainer. Maybe I’m writing this mostly for myself, since I seem to have stopped doing it (and yes, my playing has suffered for it)—but it bears repeating over and over: the best way to get closer to the tone you’re dreaming of is to keep playing, practicing, exploring, testing your abilities. If you don’t test yourself and your tone, you’ll never move forward.

Practicing is just like exercise—make sure to give yourself a warm-up before you dig in so your muscles have time to adjust and loosen up before you put them through their paces. Vary your practice routine. Work on playing stuff you’d never otherwise play. Force yourself into new territory, if even just for a 3 minute practice exercise. Take inspiration from Randy Rhoads, who made a living playing rock but who loved playing classical, or John 5, who can effortlessly bounce between chicken-pickin and full-bore metal shredding. Find ways to force yourself out of your box and do it consistently.

There’s a whole host of great practice tools out there, analog and digital. I’ve been a great fan of the book Zen Guitar by Philip Toshio Sudo and also have a daily practice app on my tablet (which is sadly underused). For more advice on practicing, check out these tips.

If you’ve got any revelations or advice on cables, picks, practice—let us know in the comments!

 

Comments

  1. josh says:

    the biggest improvement i’ve made is upgrading to evidence audio…guitar cables, patch cables and speaker cables. which isn’t cheap but if you know how to solder, bulk cables and connecters are way cheaper and 100% the way to go. check out mammoth electronics and best tronics for good deals on bulk EA cable and neutrik connectors (plus tons of other cable and jacks). a $150 EA cable can be built for $60 and 10 minutes.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 am
  2. Paul McCaffrey says:

    All good advice but tell me please…what is that half and half Townshend type lead that you have used to illustrate this piece. I love my Lava Retro Coil and if this is Lava it might be exactly what I am looking for. If it is Bullet it will almost certainly be way too heavy for comfort

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:25 am
  3. Michael says:

    I am 58 years old. I have been playing guitar for 45 years. I have been through every cable and pick known to man. All I use now and wil till I am gone to the next world is analysis plus cables and graphtech tusq .88 plectrums. Period.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:39 am
  4. russ says:

    Some of the greatest recorded guitar parts have been played on the dodgiest of equipment….the most important thing is technique and musicality….

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:50 am
  5. John says:

    Expensive cable is the homeopathy of the guitar world. The high end frequencies that are transferred from guitar to oscilloscope via certain brands of boutique cables that don’t show up in the same tests using normal quality cables are a) beyond the range of human hearing and b) even if you *think* you can hear them, they are beyond the range that the speakers in your cabinet can actually reproduce. In other words, the sound simply isn’t there for you to hear even if your ears were capable of hearing it.  In terms of audio quality, super expensive cables literally bring nothing to the table.  It can be argued that they have superior construction and, therefore, durability compared to normal cables, but nobody can “hear” the difference between reasonably priced, quality cables and $150 cables. It’s the auditory equivalent of the placebo effect. Math don’t lie.  Same goes for gold plated audio connector plugs/sockets.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:50 am
  6. guitarman says:

    I picked up a handmade glass pick in Hawaii that really adds a glassy tone to steel strings (no pun intended). However, it’s heavy and as stiff as a bad boss, so I don’t use it for everything. But it does make the strings ring out.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:54 am
  7. Willie says:

    Setup, setup, setup.  If you want to improve the tone of your electric guitar, setup is the most important factor.  Clean the fretboard, install new strings, adjust that truss rod, tweak the intonation, Q-tip the dust out of the bridge & saddles, and adjust the pickup height.  Finish up with some guitar polish and buff it out.

    An instrument you take pride in maintaining will always sound better.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 3:57 am
  8. Jim H says:

    From my personal experience with high end cables, I would have to agree with John that it is all a bit if “snake oil” and I don’t personally hear any difference. However, if a guitarist even “thinks” he sounds better (psychoacoustic suggestion can be a powerful thing), then they will generally play better, and that usually means sounding better to the audience, which is a good thing.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 am
  9. Gabriel says:

    This helped me a lot. Make sure you don’t hold your breath when you play. And if you can sing what you play–the rhythm or the notes–and can connect your breath, you’re using your hands and wrists and body in a more ergonomic way. And you can get better tone.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:04 am
  10. JP says:

    Any mid-priced cable such as Klotz or Mogami with decent jacks (Neutrik in my case) is sufficient for me. I’d like to invest in a bone/horn pick in the near future but yes, the impact of different picks is ever present - and with my acoustic, nothing short of surprising.

    Now if only I practiced more…

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:04 am
  11. really? says:

    cables, picks, practice? That’s your “pro” tone tips? Seems like you could have included something about speaker, tube amps, volume and EQ settings, string gauge, single coil versus humbuckers, reverb, etc. How about getting an old, small, tube amp, cranking the volume, cranking the tone knob, and backing off the tone and/or volume of your guitar? Wish you guys went more in depth.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:24 am
  12. Moondoggie says:

    The greatest guitar players in the world will all tell you….tone comes from your hands.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:33 am
  13. Marshall says:

    How you wrote that giant paragraph on cables and not once mentioned cable capacitance - the ONLY factor that affects the actual tonal spectrum reaching the amp - is beyond me.  “hand-built” vs. “mass-produced” is what affects the sound… that’s a load of bull.  Cable capacitance varies across different manufacturers, hand-built or mass-produced.  On top of that, different capacitances will interact differently from pickup; a cable that sounds shrill or muddy with one type of pickup might sound fantastic with another.  Shame on you for suggesting someone spend $30-50 upgrading their cable when you can’t give them the proper reason why.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:34 am
  14. Rod says:

    For the last 10 years or so I haven’t used a cable longer than 12’ running both to and from my pedalboard in club settings. In outdoor environments I will only change the output cable length to my amp. I have been using Planet Waves bulk cable and making them myself with no complaints thus far.
      As far as picks go, I was an 88mm Snarling Dog guy until I tried a 73mm by mistake and was quite surprised to find a greater ease of play without any loss of tone. Yes, picks do create tones. I have a big bag of assorted picks, bone-wood-metal-polys-nylon and the like. All of them present very different feels and tonal responses. I’m sure in the future my tastes in picks will change again.
      Practice!!!!!! Practice!!!!! Practice!!!!! ‘Nuff Said!

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:39 am
  15. russ says:

    I was being polite in my earlier post…........dont believe all the “ive got to have gear” b*llsh*t .....a talented player will sound good no matter what shit they are playing on…......

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 am
  16. John says:

    There is no difference at all in the frequency response for any instrument cable with in the range of 10hz-20khz. None. This is measured and publicly available information. Here are some charts which show this spectrum analysis.

    http://www.ovnilab.com/articles/cables.shtml

    The capacitance differences Marshall notes do exist, but they are not meaningful in a musical context. The differences cannot be heard. Not even by a dog since the frequencies are not reproduced by your speakers. To reiterate, yes, some cables will deliver more high end frequencies to your amp, but you cannot hear these frequencies and your amp doesn’t reproduce them nor to the speakers in your cab. These are facts.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 4:52 am
  17. Mike says:

    Jimi Hendrix somehow got phenomenal tone out of those super-long, cheap coily cables. In some cases losing a little high end is a good thing. As far what you can really do to affect your sound WITHOUT changing your gear, I’ve found the following make the biggest difference:

    1. New strings or different gauges
    2. Picks (or no picks)
    3. Swapping out volume and tone pots for different values

    Also, I’m surprised how many guitarists don’t really explore their amp settings. Try extreme EQ. Try almost no EQ. If you’ve always cranked the bass, try turning down the treble instead.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 5:30 am
  18. buzzystang says:

    Don’t miss this mention in the post:  Zen Guitar by Philip Toshio Sudo - it is the ONLY guitar “method” book I own. And if you were complaining about “where’s pickups? strings? speakers?” check part one.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 5:36 am
  19. mike berardicelli says:

    John is right..Snake oil at best, unless it’s shorting out? Your wasting Money you could be spending on Strings, Picks a better and more stable Bridge or even a few lines of Coke after your Gig…...

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 5:58 am
  20. David Fellows says:

    Cables,strings and picks.Yes try lots of differant ones all the time.But what about caps,tubes,speakers,tone knobs they turn and can be very useful.Then there is the bigger thing guitars,amps.pa’s.Peddles are cool to some people I have a few but your base tone has got to be great before you can worry about the little variables.All that said and getting back to the subject.There is a great deal differance in cables but useualy not so much in cost if you get a thin curly cable thiner more middy sound a thicker heavy guage cable will give you a more bottom end sound I like monster cabled they bare 60$ U.S. take a beating and deliver a good tone and are gaurenteed forever.I use the green dunlop heavy picks dunlop 10’s,1959 bustbucker pups.into a carvin 3200 with celestion 30’s and 6L6 power tubes and am quite happy with my sound.May finding you tone be easyer for you than it has been for me.The search goes on.God bless

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:00 am
  21. Michael says:

    Really? “cables, picks, practice? That’s your “pro” tone tips? Seems like you could have included something about speaker, tube amps, volume and EQ settings, string gauge, single coil versus humbuckers, reverb, etc. How about getting an old, small, tube amp, cranking the volume, cranking the tone knob, and backing off the tone and/or volume of your guitar? Wish you guys went more in depth.”
    Uh, this article was about improving your tone with gear you already have, not upgrading or switching out gear. Did you not read the title.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:07 am
  22. Parkerhead says:

    I think picks are one of the most over looked tone enhancements.  As an experiment, I recently purchased the John Pearse “Handfull of Picks”...an assortment of 14 picks made of different materials (Camel Bone, Ebony, Coconut Shell, Buffalo Horn, Rosewood, etc.) in different shapes, etc.  The sonic difference between the different materials is shockingly huge (particularly on acoustic instruments but on electrics as well).  It’s like throwing a different EQ curve on your rig.  I also purchased the John Pearse Fast Turtle picks (not included in the handful)...a synthetic, faux Tortise Shell material made from Casein…They’re my favorite, particularly for Gypsy Jazz and Trad Jazz material…they give a great upper mid bump that cuts like crazy and get me sounding closer to Django than ever before…now if I could only play like Django.  Love these picks for my Tele’s as well.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:09 am
  23. Gil says:

    Well, changing string brands or types CAN make a difference.  I found out that going from Brand A to Brand B strings made me sure that I wanted to go back to Brand A.  And there is whole potful of difference in sound between a 0.8mm pick and a 1.5mm pick.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:23 am
  24. Art says:

    I’ve replaced all the cheap chrome tipped cables with Mogami Gold cables. NO. It wasn’t cheap. But after spending thousands of dollars on quality guitars, amps, and pedals over the years, spending 200$ on cables over the course of a couple of months was a no brainer. I don’t need to know the science behind any of this. I just now that where my sound was once buzzy, it is now awesome.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:42 am
  25. President Dogeater says:

    George L’s cables - easiest to put together, no solder, lightweight, don’t break & you can make.
    Clean your strings with GHS guitar polish to make them ring like new again. I only change strings now when I do a set up or after a year or so or one breaks. Also - I used to break strings often when I used .009 - .042. Switched to .010 - .046 many yrs ago and rarely if ever break any strings. And another thing: how about using your tone controls to control your tone? And use your fingers and thumb instead of a pick and you will never have to buy, then lose, and buy more picks ever! But when I do use picks, I only use Dunlop Tortex red. I am the most uninteresting man in the world.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 6:51 am
  26. Zach says:

    @Paul McCaffrey: http://www.effectsbay.com/2011/12/divine-noise-announces-5050-cable/

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 7:08 am
  27. mike berardicelli says:

    Life is good! Change your strings as often as I change my underwear(Once a week) and you’ll be good to go..Strings change tension which vibrates the Instrument differently. Don’t tell me a .009 gauge is going to sound as full and sustain as well as a .010 gauge? Thin picks sound thin. I can get a thin sound from a thicker Pick(within reason) but not a thick sound from a thin Pick..Forget Tubes, Guitar woods, effects…This is about using what you already have…you know “Making Lemonade, when your given Lemons”.  Shaker Ridge Rules Brentwood, Long Island…

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 8:12 am
  28. fenderteles says:

    Give me a good guitar and amp and the rest should do itself. The tone you like as a player is more important than other people’s opinion. Everyone has their own tastes. Some people like tons of effects, delay reverb, chorus etc. Give me a Tele with a humbucker in the bridge and a Fender tube amp, and I’ll find the tone that I love. Being happy with the sound out of my amp makes me a better player. When I don’t like it, I can’t focus well enough on the subtleties of my playing.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 8:36 am
  29. Abbacus says:

    A old, 59 lp into a plexi or hiwatt with greenbacks in the cabs and ear valves!

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 8:53 am
  30. John says:

    Any decent guitar cable should work fine. You can have a capacitance problem if using really cheap cable and high frequency’s could be chopped. But this is in extreme cases like it you were using stereo type cables and running over 20 ft. If you’re any good at soldering, you can make your own guitar cables that are more reliable than some of the more expensive “name brand” types that look fancy. Reliability ” I think” is the most prominent issue when dealing with guitar cables. I use all metal phone jacks and high quality heavy duty braided shield cable that is fairly flexible, not stiff. There are other tricks like beefing up the insulation where it enters the jack (by this I don’t mean electrical tape or those stupid spring things). I have a lot of wire and stuff laying around so I use the insulation off a lager gauge wire that fits snugly over your cable and snug in the jack and kind of stiff also. A couple layers of shrink tube works fine too. I hope this helps someone out there.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 8:53 am
  31. Ryan Caldarone says:

    After switching to Mogami cables (Instrument and patch cables for pedalboard) a couple years ago, I’ve noticed a HUGE difference. All those patch cables with sub-standard cable and insulation were sucking my tone big time—and volume too. Now it sounds the same when I plug straight into my amp, or through my pedalboard… and that sort of transparency was the goal.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 8:58 am
  32. Dan says:

    “Expensive cable is the homeopathy of the guitar world” - couldn’t have said it better. Completely true! It’s the “booteek” power cables that make me laugh the loudest.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 10:56 am
  33. DBA says:

    I don’t get all the cheap cable guys - you problably put the cheapest gas from the cheapest gas starttion in your car because its all the same.  In theory it is - in pracitce it is not.  God is in the details so they say.  Good cables (big mogami fan myself) do make a difference and just kelling the hum and pop alone is worth the $$s.  If your playing single coils buy mogami or Lava - they do make a dfference - and you will hear it.  If you are a humbucker person - it has less impact since the pickup is desinged to kill some of this already. 
    Spend a few dollars and you’ll be happy you did - I fought with poor calbes and lousy end plugs far to long - and have switched to all mogami and its changed my world.  I’m a strat, tele, P90 guy - and it does help.  I’m a pick freak and picks make a giant diff in sound - I have an old collection of MIA bakersfield picks that are untouchable for tone.  There’s a few comments aboiut its in the hands and that is very true - they way to make that happend is practice practice practice.  Not one day should go by without touching a guitar - it must be an obsession.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 11:26 am
  34. Joe Schwark says:

    I agree that if your good you can make anything sound good. That is my experience. I’ve played through other peoples’ rigs and they always ask ” how do you get that sound?” It seems I sound the same through just about anything. I will say this about picks: I tried a V-pick and had a break through in my playing,so I highly recommend trying a “V-Pick”. The thicker the better. They just have a sound and feel that nothing else has and I’ve tried them all.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 am
  35. Stephen Everett says:

    more practice seems to improve my tone no end

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 am
  36. Grabalonie says:

    I’m an electronic engineer and have played for over 40 years.
    Cables as a component of audio deterioration is Bunk - plainly and clearly.  All copper used is 99,9% pure.  Cable capacitance is mythology… if you had a cable 200 feet long from your guitar to your amp the capacitance would be still so small it would be inaudible (actually - picofarads, which are in the radio frequency range).
    How about this: Did you ever stop to think about your stage snake?  That often runs 50 feet or more.  Ever hear discussion about copper in snakes?
    Finally - cheap cables may not have enough copper.  That is what makes them bad.  I’ve seen junk cables that had like 10 strands in the center.  How many bends do you think it will stand up to before some break and begin rubbing the ground inside the jack?  Then you hear the characteristic crackle of junk cables.
    So - Pay for stuff that is durable and hopefully has jacks that can be unscrewed for observation and repair.  Expect to pay about $15 for a 20 foot cable with one right angle connector (very useful on some axes), strain relief (a piece of heat-shrunk plastic over the jacks) and heavy duty plastic or cloth over plastic.  Maybe $25 at the most…

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 2:36 pm
  37. Spiro Giro says:

    Best improvement s in my tone came from adding:

    Fender Tweed Deluxe
    Fender Super Reverb
    Fender Supersonic
    Pignose G40V
    Cornford Roadhouse
    Gibson 335 cherry
    PRS Soapbar II
    PROEL DS10 pedal
    Dano Cool Cat Vibe and Trans Drive

    I also added a White Gibson Les Paul and when want that Mick Ronson Sound, I play it through a Dano Cool Cat Drive into the Super Reverb set to vol 5…

    None of thse tones were available from my 1973 Fender Strat, 1975 curly cable and a 1974 Gibson ultra hard pick. all played into a Teisco Checkmate2 1 amp that I labored under for 30 years…!

     

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 9:10 pm
  38. matthew says:

    well thanks for the awesome tips..being one of the 5 best guitar players in the world has taught me to be humble and kind..so ill just say,practice,practice,practice..i agree a cable that doesnt cut out is also good .you can make your own for way less then buying them in a matter of minutes.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm
  39. John says:

    DBA,

    The point we are trying to make about cables is you *think* you hear the difference, but you do not.  This is called the placebo effect. We can measure the capacitance of cables using an oscilloscope and analyze the frequency response.  Science tells us there is no audible difference between cables.  You can’t really hear the difference because there is nothing to hear. As long as you get a cable that doesn’t break, all other things are equal.  Thinking that Laval cables will improve the tone of single coils is akin to seeking a witch doctor for a blood letting to rid yourself of an evil vapor.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 10:21 pm
  40. BobM says:

    Like a lot of guitarists, I have more than one amp. My two go too amps have been my Genz Benz Black Pearl and my Peavey Delta Blues. I had them set up with an A-B switch and noticed that the sound with them both on was so much better than either separately. I also switched to small picks (I prefer the green or Black ones to the Red for some reason - they are smoother) which gives me a lot more control and has improved my overall tone a lot.
    I also bought some Planet Waves Pro cords. All together I am very happy with the set up.

    posted on May 17, 2013 at 10:37 pm
  41. russ says:

    I find picks made from ubuku wood from west africa are the best for tone…just cant beat them. And regarding cables, i only use zenco groundshield solid gold flex which was developed by nasa for the hubble space telescope….seems very durable…..

    posted on May 18, 2013 at 6:19 am
  42. SquidTurbo says:

    I switched to Elixir cables after many years of using Whirlwind, Planet Waves, whomever. There is a noticeable difference in sound, improved in my opinion.

    posted on May 18, 2013 at 6:41 am
  43. Keith says:

    Well, Hendrix, Clapton, Waters… all recorded their famous material using 60’s/70’s era cable technology, so I’m not buying the $100 cable B.S.  As long as it’s durable, and has a good number of copper strands, and will lay flat on a stage, it’s ok with me.
      Picks are a personal choice but everyone seems to agree they make a difference, look at Willy G…  I’ve heard he uses a Peso sometimes.  And speaking of the Rev, he plays with 7’s and yet gets monster tone.  Contrast that with SRV who I believe used 12’s and also got epic tone (as we all know). 
      Not a ‘tone’ trick per-se, but i hear and play with too many cats who need to turn their amp down a bit and learn to play more softly in some parts of a song so that they can punch up the volume later for a feeling of drama and excitement.  People who hit ‘em as hard as they can from beginning to end drive me batty.  Just saying.

    posted on May 18, 2013 at 7:27 am
  44. Willy says:

    If throwing huge amounts of money at your gear, as promoted by the people that sell the gear they suggest is an indicator, then,forget the brand names and play what sounds good. A cheap curly cable will attenuate…ie knock some treble off your over zingy bridge pick up and tame it . If that sounds better to you, then you made a good choice. Some people actually recorded good stuff on a Danelectro, a plastic Airline with lip stick pickups, through a Fender Champ. All budget, low end products, until the tone phonys decided that they were ok. Remember, the fender tele, Flying V and other guitars were derided by experts, until they produced a “sound” . Be brave, or mature, and play what sounds good, not copying someone else. Listen to Roy Buchanan to see what he could do with a tele and an amp. If you had his pick and cable, you would still be no closer to his sound or talent. Play and become yourself. Be someone to copy, not the fawning fool who wants to BE someone else….or dress like KISS.

    posted on May 18, 2013 at 10:41 am
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  46. Richard says:

    Why do I need to buy new things to get better tone out of the gear I have? ;)  (Other than practice and basic maintenance like changing strings)

    FWIW.  Rather than chasing tone, I bought gear for the signature sounds of the gear. Then I try to find the best tones (best tones = what sounds good or best to me!) for each piece of gear I have.  I use my Vox tube amps to get a Vox sound, and fine tune it to where I think it sounds good to me (my best tones).  Same for my Fender, Mesa, Marshall and Engl rigs.  I got the specific gear for their signature sounds then use my gear and ears to put my spin on those signature sounds.  Don’t try to make your gear sound like something it is not, focus on getting the best out of what it is designed to do.

    IMO / YMMV

    posted on May 19, 2013 at 2:31 am
  47. Bill says:

    in the practice department, there’s a great app for picking apart tunes on your iphone, Robick. For just $2.99 you can slow down a tune without losing much sound quality, loop a section. change the pitch…great deal!!!

    posted on May 19, 2013 at 7:14 am
  48. Dr Z says:

    Amazing how many “experts” have commented here that don’t have a clue!  Guitar signals are typically high impedance which suffer signal loss over long cables (10’ or 20’) vs. mic cables and PA snakes which are a low impedance signal and don’t suffer the same loss over long cable runs.  YES, there is a difference in cables!!!!  Anyone here that doesn’t hear the difference either has hearing loss (very possible), plays heavy distortion all the time, or doesn’t have gear on either end of the cable that is good quality.  I recently replaced my cheap pedal board patch cables with a George L’s pedal board kit.  The first time I played at performance volume, I was amazed at the difference is clarity and bass response.  I was honestly surprised at the improvement.  A Monster Rock cable has a definite mid boost compared to my Ear Candy or Elixer cables, both of which are very neutral.  The Elixer has more low and high end compared to the others.  BTW I use a jazz size stone pick from http://www.picksandstones.com/  Love it!

    posted on May 19, 2013 at 8:24 am
  49. mulch says:

    New strings. So many times when I was feeling blah about my tone, thinking I needed a new pedal or amp… new strings and magically my GAS is alleviated.

    posted on May 20, 2013 at 12:29 am
  50. ken says:

    Yes cables make a nice difference for sure! using a buffer in front helps my tone much better since i have a few true bypass pedals.

    posted on May 21, 2013 at 6:49 am
  51. Steve says:

    We guitarists can (and do) have the most pointless arguments on the planet.  Sure we claim to hear the “high end loss” in inexpensive cables and whether or not so and so’s drive is “true bypass.”  I know it’s a fictitious anecdote, but supposedly Eric Johnson can tell the type of battery that’s being used in an effects pedal.  God, we are total freaking nerds.  When it gets down to it, can John and Jane Concertgoer tell the difference if you use Mogami or Hosa cables?  No.  They just want to hear a killer set.  If we spent as much time writing songs as we spend bitching about ” teh booteekz,” there would be a massive influx of legit music…Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go play my PRS Private Stock 245 through handmade silverplated cables into my Dumble…I wonder which of my 5 Centaurs I should dust off this evening?  Aw hell, I guess I need to head over to TGP and ask the cork sniffers there what THEY would do.

    posted on May 21, 2013 at 7:52 am
  52. BassLord says:

    They never mentioned strings. If your strings are dead your tone is gonna suck

    posted on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 am
  53. John Mc. says:

    From all I have read here, and from what I’ve posted, most do agree with me. I’ve owned and operated a professional recording production studio. This is not to toot my own horn, but to give some good advice. If you are a professional musician or work in the hands on end of the music business, it would be a big benefit for you to learn how to solder and wire up mic and guitar cables. Some people will swear by certain brands claiming “so and so” are the best. Mass produced cables and connectors cannot compete with the quality and price of what you can do yourself with a little experience. Using good quality cable is as good if not better than the sound quality. Many times I’ve had to repair an expensive name brand guitar cable and replace the molded in connector (they do look purdy) with a cheaper all metal screw on piece and make something that will stand up to the rigors that moving about, getting stepped on, yanked out of equip, packing and setting up, tearing down etc.  that occurs. I can make top quality guitar cables , better than any you can buy, for under $12. and they are repairable in most cases without putting on a new jack. I prefer not to use augmented cables, straight for 6 feet and then wound up curly for so many feet because these seem to act like trip wires on stage or in the studio, plus when stepped on or smashed by other equipment they can short out.  When doing live sound or working in the studio, it would cost a fortune to keep up with broken guitar cords, mic lines, patch cords, speaker cables and so on. As far as sound quality, unless you’re using really small cheap small wire like your little sister’s Ipod headphone wires, trust me, you’re not going to hear any difference. People who brag about the quality of their guitar cords are just trying to justify paying way too much money for their junk, lol. The bottom line is learn your trade, carry a tool box with soldering equip., wire strippers screw drivers and all that stuff. It really blows when you have to hold up a gig for 20 minutes because of a shorted out cord while everyone runs around digging through stuff looking for an extra one.

    posted on May 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm
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    @ BassLord UNLESS you are a bassist playing reggae, old school funk and R&B, or some other musical species that requires a muted bottom end. Bootsie Collins is known for not changing his strings and I’ve heard that reggae legend Robbie Shakespear is known to pull bass strings from the studio garbage can to get the dead sound that he is known for.

    posted on May 22, 2013 at 5:03 am
  56. Martin says:

    I saw Mary Gauthier last night. Her guitarist, Scott Nolen, played a $50 acoustic guitar. The sounds he got out of that thing were amazing! So much for cables and tonewoods, etc. Mary said, “Can you believe a $50 guitar can sound like that? Think about all those assholes with $5000 guitars!” Yeah, I have some expensive guitars, and I will NEVER sound that good!

    posted on May 25, 2013 at 4:37 am
  57. Atomic says:

      I too switched to Evidence Audio cables and haven’t looked back.  What a difference!  Even my musician friends can hear it, once skeptics as well.  I also started using thick V-Picks.  I was surprised at the larger tone AND increased speed.  Who would have thought?  Not me.
      As far as guitar prices are concerned, I think it is all about the tone, not the price.  Whether it is $50 or $5,000, it seems to be about the wood and hardware.  If you are lucky enough to find a magical guitar at $50, BUY IT, you lucky stiff!  If it is $5,000 and you have the money…  BUY IT, you lucky stiff!

    posted on June 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm
  58. PRS513 says:

    I haven’t read all the comments, but if you haven’t tried this, RUN, don’t walk and put a VooDoo Labs power supply on your pedalboard.  The difference in sound is nothing short of STUNNING!

    posted on June 14, 2013 at 10:59 pm
  59. John Mc. says:

    I think we’ve about beat this cable thing to death. Some people will insist that their expensive name brand cables sound better. No proof or logic from anyone, including engineers who’ve posted electronic realities can convince them otherwise. It’s like teaching algebra to your dog. I have to give it to the marketers of these products though. They could probably convince some people in here that red insulated cable will produce a much better sound than the blue insulation their competitors produce. I will point one fact that gives some credibility to certain XLR mic connectors though. Cannon and a couple other American brand connectors are superior to Chinese made XLR’s (3 pin mic connectors). On the microphone side, the connector that plugs into the mic, the metal sleeves that the mic pins slide into is a cheaper metal. They do not spring back to original size when unplugged. As if they’ve been stretched out for a larger size pin now. Not good at all. The three pins on the mic aren’t always exactly the same size either. You can see where this could cause problems, and does! Now other than malfunctions like this, the myth that expensive guitar cables will sound any better is just pure bunk. Unless you’re using really cheap cable wire or really cheap connectors hearing any difference is just psychosomatic. But if you think your $40 guitar chord sounds better and you’re not just trying to justify spending too much money, I can’t fix you, lol. In the real world where I exist, it’s just to expensive to keep buying new guitar cords, mic cables, speaker cables, snakes, patch cords, stomp box jumpers, power supply wires etc. etc. I have to have my soldering kit ready. I’m not bragging, but I’ve been doing this long before most of you have been potty trained. I make my own direct boxes, can make a headphone amp out of an old stereo that can power over a dozen headphones with volume controls for each for under $50 and so on and so on. I see a lot of you making claims about how great certain cables are, as if you’re experts, but don’t even know what a shunt capacitor connected to your tone pot in your guitar does. Nuff said. It’s your money. Believe the hype, or get with someone who knows, or maybe even take some electronic courses and learn this stuff yourself. At least learn to solder!

    posted on June 15, 2013 at 11:25 pm
  60. PRS513 says:

    Well, the issue is that some cables so sound different from others.  Personal preference is another thing, and its subjective.  I can hear some differences amnongst the cables I have but the scientific reasons they sound different might be quantifiable, and they might not.  Crappy solder joints that add distortion, capacitance, resistance are all factors - not to mention microphonics.  But the law of diminishing returns sets in very rapidly.  You never get something that’s twice as good for twice the price so the question always becomes “Is it worth it to you?”  If it is, spend the money, if it’s not, then don’t!

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 12:44 am
  61. John Mc. says:

    Let me just say this an I’m done.  I will make guitar cord for under $12. And I will bet anything you want to wager that you can’t distinguish mine from your $60 name brand cord. Unless your name brand cord is just a pile of junk and can’t measure up. You talk about capacitance factors that are up in the radio frequency ranges. Nothing that can be heard or produced by any speakers, even piezos.  It’s like saying that “more reluctance is better”, so lets use car battery jumper cables. lol

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 1:43 am
  62. John Mc. says:

    Apparently you guys have Superman hearing, you can hear things my oscilloscope cant see. I am amazed!

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 1:52 am
  63. ken says:

    Turn the amp up! you can feel it, hear it! its more clearer sounding easy!!!!!!!!

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 2:03 am
  64. John Mc. says:

    Of course you can hear the difference, Those pretty blue sound so much nicer, but the red ones have highs. I bet if you put sparkly glitter on them they’d sound even better. Pahleeze. A good guitar cord is a good cord. If you’re using your daughters Ipod cable, yea you’ll hear a difference. If you can hear the difference between two guitar cables, one of them is just bad, shorted out, bad solder, whatever. Or, if you running your guitar cord 100 feet, which you shouldn’t be doing anyway. And yes, you will hear the difference when you go wireless, almost always. Reliability should be the main concern. I’ve seen a major cable brand, Initials are ” T M ” . get crushed when someone stepped on the phone jack laying on the floor wearing nike’s. This was one of those expensive molded in plastic combo metal ones. Needless to say,  the jack had to be cut off, tossed and a new all metal soldered in. I’m beginning to realize I’m in the wrong business. I should quit my job, and start manufacturing guitar cords. You guys will pay any amount if it’s marketed right. Just put a fancy logo on it, some flashy color and some glitter and voila, $50. I’ll laugh my butt off all the way to the bank. They do sound better, I promise.

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 3:09 am
  65. PRS513 says:

    Oh my!  Okay for those of us who listen to our music on an oscilloscope, we have a genius in our midst.  And for those of us who think price ($12 bucks) indicates quality, we have a companion for the aforementioned genius.

    But I gotta give you this, … I believe you can make a $12 dollar cable that sounds great, since that’s about what it costs a manufacturer who retails it for $150 bucks.  I also believe that there are other cables on the market that will sound different from your $12 cable – not better or worse, just different - that’s all I am saying. 

    Further, I DO agree there are charlatans out there in the cable business and I have no patience for that.  I own one of those cables (sleep easy, it was given to me, I didn’t buy it) and it’s a piece of crap, but guess what, it sounds different from another cable I use.  That’s all I am saying – I’m not attempting to say what’s better, I’m just saying some do sound different from others.  And no, the differences are NOT night & day – they’re subtle, so anybody who tells you a particular cable is going to “blow you away” also falls into that “charlatan” category.

    So screw the blue, red and glitter nonsense, I’m not participating in that specious argument, but at the same time, if you don’t believe that there are differences because you can’t measure them, I can also live with that.  Just don’t tell me you have to be Superman, as insinuated, to hear differences.

    BTW, how DOES your music sound on your oscilloscope?

    posted on June 16, 2013 at 7:42 am
  66. John Mc. says:

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